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What are Necessary Components in an Exit Strategy for the War on Drugs?

Started by davidthedrake

2 years ago

The war on drugs destroys the lives of hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. every year.

The war on drugs needs to stop, but how do we get started? What do you think are necessary components in exit strategy for the war on drugs?

Further reading on the subject can be found here:
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1.	24 votes 471 pts	Treatment Instead of Prison Time We need to help people that have problems, not continually put them in jail over and over for something they have lost control of. Discuss
2.	16 votes 294 pts	A Different View on Education When it Comes to Drugs By teaching our kids about drugs rather than trying to scare them into doing them, they will be able to make better decisions about choices they will have in their future. Discuss
3.	10 votes 189 pts	Regulatory Taxing and $$ Scheme This is especially true for drugs which do not cause violent behavior. There should be a system setup for interstate trade, as well as for farmers who have something to do with it. Discuss
4.	7 votes 128 pts	Laws and Amendments to Laws New laws for control and treatment as well as amendments to existing laws. Discuss
5.	7 votes 127 pts	drug tax must cover treatment. When I was in Holland, I was suprised to see a bus going around the city distributing free heroin. Their approach has worked much better than ours by most accounts. I believe in our right to self medication and think it is unamerican that Americans must get the drugs they need from overseas due to an inane FDA approval process that limits our freedom and deprives us from the latest lifesaving treatments denying our freedom of life liberty and persuit of happiness. I propose a tax on drugs purchased without a presciption to cover education and treatment and no prohibitive restriction on our freedom to by any drugs. The tax could be as high as 50 or 100% for some substances, or a license with a hefty license fee for anything really dangerous. There could be a quiz on the dangers and interactions you must pass to get certain drugs. This... [show more] When I was in Holland, I was suprised to see a bus going around the city distributing free heroin. Their approach has worked much better than ours by most accounts. I believe in our right to self medication and think it is unamerican that Americans must get the drugs they need from overseas due to an inane FDA approval process that limits our freedom and deprives us from the latest lifesaving treatments denying our freedom of life liberty and persuit of happiness. I propose a tax on drugs purchased without a presciption to cover education and treatment and no prohibitive restriction on our freedom to by any drugs. The tax could be as high as 50 or 100% for some substances, or a license with a hefty license fee for anything really dangerous. There could be a quiz on the dangers and interactions you must pass to get certain drugs. This would be a MAJOR source of government income replacing the obscene profits of the mafias. The HUGE amount of money would cover the cost of monitoring, education, and treatment. [show less] Discuss
6.	6 votes 114 pts	More Conversations We need to get the right people to start talking about this problem. Discuss
7.	4 votes 70 pts	Money You gotta have money to fight people with money. Discuss
8.	2 votes 33 pts	Not consider addiction as a disability I've heard of how the war on drug is racist and economic based but the so called "disparity" in incarcetation is based the behaviors surrounding the use, possession and distribution of drugs. Don't get me wrong. I think the war on drugs is a failure like all prohibition and if I were President I would automatically pardon all "non-violent" drug offenders. Decriminalizing drugs would take out the dirty money that is the "root" of the evil surrounding drugs. Take away the big bucks and there's no reason to drive by on a school yard anymore. We can't the consequences of drug use though. What may be safe in nature can become extremely dangerous when concentrated. The tetragenic effects of drugs, legal or illegal, is a serious problem. We certainly don't want our surgeons of airline pilots getting stoned right before we need them so... [show more] I've heard of how the war on drug is racist and economic based but the so called "disparity" in incarcetation is based the behaviors surrounding the use, possession and distribution of drugs. Don't get me wrong. I think the war on drugs is a failure like all prohibition and if I were President I would automatically pardon all "non-violent" drug offenders. Decriminalizing drugs would take out the dirty money that is the "root" of the evil surrounding drugs. Take away the big bucks and there's no reason to drive by on a school yard anymore. We can't the consequences of drug use though. What may be safe in nature can become extremely dangerous when concentrated. The tetragenic effects of drugs, legal or illegal, is a serious problem. We certainly don't want our surgeons of airline pilots getting stoned right before we need them so there must be some type of control. Let economics rule the day. You can do them if you want but nobody has to hire you or clothe you, or feed you. If we are prepared to deal with social problems that will incur in a manner that doesn't enable or encourage an unhealthy personal decision that society has to pay for, then legalization would work. It is ridiculous that there are longer prison terms for the recreational use of drugs than there is for child molestation. I completely appreciate what people feel about who is using the most drugs in America. The Narcotic trade is a billions of dollar a year business and that money is not being made in nickle and dime bags on ghetto street corners. Look at hollywood, Nashville and law offices and the big houses in the good neighborhoods. Sung to the tune of Charlie Pride's Mississippi Cotton-pickin' Delta Town: Picking coca leaves in the blazing sun, The Gs all lay around, they got all the guns Sure it's a living but it's not much fun In Colombian Coca Pickin' Delta Town Chorus: The Spray Birds come in, they fly all around The gunships behind em, so we dont' shoot em down But let me catch that cullo' if it gets on the ground In a Colombian Coca Pickin' Delta Town Spending my nights in a two-bit shack Turning Mother Nature into homemade crack Then I load it on some donkeys in some gunnysacks In a Colombian Coca Pickin' Delta Town. Repeat Chorus: More lyrics but too long for this forum. [show less] Discuss
9.	1 votes 19 pts	Put a coke user in the White House-he'll legalize everything 1 Comment

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G_Grupie

2 years ago

davidthedrake thats a cool long topic.

and i dont think any one will read it (-:

holotone

2 years ago Grupies think this comment is well-said!

Eeexcellent topic, davidthed.

G_Grupie

2 years ago

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BittersweetSymphony

2 years ago

Whoa, TMI!

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What_the_fuck

2 years ago Grupies think this comment is poorly said!

No, drugs destroy millions of lives, shoot the people that do the fuckin drugs in the first place dipshit (along with the dealers and the people who smuggle them)

holotone

2 years ago

Are you advocating that we murder everyone who consumes caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, or prescription drugs?

What_the_fuck

2 years ago Grupies think this comment is poorly said!

are those the ones usually targeted by the war on drugs?

holotone

2 years ago

You said that "drugs destroy millions of lives". Isn't it true that alcohol, tobacco, and prescription drugs also contribute to this? Wouldn't your logic mean that we'd basically need to kill most everyone on the planet?

What_the_fuck

2 years ago Grupies think this comment is poorly said!

no, my response was to this ridiculous topic, crack, marijuana, cocaine, Heroin, LSD, Acid (and IMO tobacco) shouldn't be allowed to be accessed simply because they turn people into addicted idiots, willing to do anything to get them

What_the_fuck

2 years ago Grupies think this comment is poorly said!

sweet, I have my own following of people marking my comments down, up yours assholes :P

holotone

2 years ago

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMpUuspjc7Y

2) Given that a very small percentage of drug users will "do anything" for their drug of choice, wouldn't it make more sense to enforce the existing laws that prohibit robbery / murder / etc.?

3) What right do you have to tell someone what they can or cannot put in their own bodies if it doesn't affect anyone else?

What_the_fuck

2 years ago Grupies think this comment is poorly said!

I'm not interested in your hippie garbage shit, I watched the video and disagree, and as for the low crime statistics, I have seen people MURDER to get this fuckin shit, don't give me that.

holotone

2 years ago

"I'm not interested in your hippie garbage shit"

Quite the logician you are, I see....

"as for the low crime statistics, I have seen people MURDER to get this fuckin shit, don't give me that."

That is true, though people also murder for money, very arguably even more frequently - Does that mean that we should outlaw capitalism?

What_the_fuck

2 years ago

"I've seen people murder for money, should we outlaw capitalism"

Non sequitor much??

Drugs alter the mind, I have yet to see capitalism do that...

Drugs also create a depedancy and eventually kill people. Shooting them will just speed up process

Friar_Zero

2 years ago

Wow, so drugs kill their users? Then why do we have so many living pot-heads, ravers, and ex-drug addicts? So we need to outlaw things that can eventually kill people. We should shoot people who breathe air, it will only speed up the process.

What_the_fuck

2 years ago

or Liberals who seem to fill our atmosphere with nothing but hot-air...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vETbJMcjXRk

holotone

2 years ago

"Non sequitor much?"

A non sequitor is an argument where its conclusion does not follow from its premises. As it is a fact that people can and frequently DO kill for money, my statement isn't a logical fallacy of ANY sort.

"Drugs alter the mind, I have yet to see capitalism do that..."

If you're trying to tell me that money doesn't create a definite and oftentimes negative behavioral response in people, you're absolutely out of your mind.

"Drugs also create a depedancy and eventually kill people."

When was the last time you heard of someone dying of a marijuana overdose?

"Shooting them will just speed up process"

Let's kill cancer patients too!
/non-sequitor

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2 years ago

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Treatment Instead of Prison Time

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