Defend a view you normally oppose

Briefly state a strong belief you hold that you would never change, and that the rest of us know you hold. (Point to where you argued your case on Grupthink so we can check), then argue the opposite point of view with utter conviction. You must demonstrate how you contest and defeat your own previous argument.

This is a test of your ability to argue "uphill" so to speak and therefore points go to those who are the most convincing.

Tip: The more you hate yourself whilst attempting this exercise, the more likely it is that you are being successful in your attempt.

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bansaisequoia Member (Level 6): 5,781 points   1 month ago

Why would I want to give valid support for something to which I am opposed? Of all places to do it, why would I want it to be on the World Wide Web where billions of people could read it and be swayed to uphold an opinion which I dispute? I could give a weak, invalid argument if you'd like.

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Thoralby Member (Level 3): 417 points   1 month ago

Good point - but you don't have to play the game if you feel that it would give lift to views you do not support.

However, you could do it in three parts:

1 Make it crystal clear at the beginning that you don't believe what you are going to say next.

2. You could then give the counter argument to your belief and then,

3. Dismantle it.

To be fair, and to gain points, you would need to be so convincing about 2. that anyone not reading your 3. would likely be convinced of the argument at 2. Then your 3. would kick in and it would demonstrate a solid point, that it is relatively easy for a clever person to convince others of silly/evil/untrue beliefs and that we all need to be ever vigilant.

Done in this way, you would be using Grupthink as a window for an idea you firmly believe in, showing the counter argument and showing it in the final analysis to be weak and difficult to support.

Please have a go - the notion of one person presenting both an argument and a counter-argument is an age old intellectual tradition. It is fun and it helps sharpen the wits.

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Yolah_dude Member (Level 3): 483 points   1 month ago

Sorry to but in, it is a good topic and all, but when I believe in something I have complete belief that it is correct. Though this topic may be used by thise who have partial beliefs in something, I don't think those who believe in something will answer, but who knows, I'm not everyone else.

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bansaisequoia Member (Level 6): 5,781 points   1 month ago

I'm not saying it's a bad topic. I'm just saying no way am I going to give reasons to support something I am averse to where billions of people can read it. People with strange creationist beliefs, oligarchs and those who think global warming is a myth may feel free to give their answers to this topic.

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Goliath Member (Level 5): 4,194 points   1 month ago

A topic in the same genre: http://www.grupthink.com/topic/12590

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This topic was started by Thoralby Member (Level 3): 417 points on December 2nd, 2008. 6 grupies have voted on one or more of the 2 answers.

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